I’m a big fan of both the generous-spirited, straight-talking Marie Forleo and insightful, no-bull marketing and entrepreneurial genius Seth Godin. So when Marie’s email announcing their interview landed in my inbox on Tuesday, I made time to give it my full attention. Watch it and join the conversation here.
Below I’ve picked out some key parts of the interview that resonated with me, but I can recommend watching it in its entirety.
On having a sensational life
Your life doesn’t get more sensational when you have more followers on Twitter.
Instead then, of keeping track of followers, Seth suggests that we ask ourselves:
Does this interaction leave behind a trail that I’m proud of? Does having this interaction make me glad that I did it and want to do it again?
One of the overarching themes from the chat was that it doesn’t really matter what you do, but rather, how you do it. Seth says:
Choose to matter in a way that aligns with who you want to be.
Therefore, the quality of our interactions matter so much more than finding that one “perfect purpose”.
Seth blogs every day, and recommends it to everyone (even if not a single soul reads your posts). Why?
If you know that tomorrow you would have to write something about something you noticed, something that will help someone, an opinion, you will form those opinions, you will notice those things.
Over time, he says, if you
Leave this trail behind of thoughtful examination of your world, you can’t help but get better at whatever it is you seek to do.
We gain permission to talk, and gain trust of readers
By showing up in a way that you’d want someone to show up for you.
Worried about running out of ideas to blog about daily?
I write like I talk, and nobody I know gets talker’s block.
Productivity is an economic measure of how much you output for the time and resources you put in. Some people have figured out how to be naturally more productive than others per minute, and the way you do that is by having an instinct to ship.
Your work, therefore, doesn’t have to be “polished, perfect or justified”.
We have to acknowledge we have finite resources, finite time, finite connection. How will we use them to produce outcomes that we’re proud of?
On disappointment and setbacks
Seth recommends a Monopoly mindset (a game he and his kids knew so well they could play in the car, without a board). He says that unless you’re a small child, you’re not personally put out or offended if something doesn’t go your way in Monopoly, because you know it’s not you – it’s a game, with lots and lots of moving parts. It’s not personal.
If you can look at [life] that way you can be better at the game because you can approach it with joy and without blocked-up, intense fear.
He suggests that on experiencing a setback, we should be present, breathe, and say, “Oh! That’s interesting!”, instead of acting as if it were fatal.
On showing up and ‘mattering’
Are we showing up with so much generosity and presence that people begin to count on us?
None of us will ever matter to everyone.